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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-new-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:wTWdnf_3oMoeJkL0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-ne w-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

NATO isn't pleading for American help,
America is pleading for NATO help.







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On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-new-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

So true.

When they are freezing their butts off during winter because they went green, let them freeze.
They were warned.

the days of the US funding NATO and these EU continent wars and conflicts are coming to an end.
Unless we are directly threatened, like Iran and NOT like Ukraine/Russia, we should stay out of it.
--
pothead

"Nothing rankles a Democrat elitist like seeing a former
blue collar worker rise to someone who has built their own
successful business and enjoying the fruits of their labor.
They deeply resent and disdain people like that because liberals
feel they are socially and academically superior to them
and therefore undeserving of such success."

-- Author Unknown


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On 4/15/26 17:58, pothead wrote:

On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-new-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

So true.

When they are freezing their butts off during winter because they went green, let them freeze.
They were warned.

the days of the US funding NATO and these EU continent wars and conflicts are coming to an end.
Unless we are directly threatened, like Iran and NOT like Ukraine/Russia, we should stay out of it.

Well, it's never THAT easy ... the world, even the
shitty parts, ARE 'connected' to the interests of
ourselves and (useful) allies.

Meanwhile, Trump's reverse on the blockade situation
was brilliant. No money = no Iranian regime.

And we can still blast all their infrastructure if needed.

Europe alas, lost cause I'm afraid. They did it
to themselves.

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On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

On 4/15/26 17:58, pothead wrote:

On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-new-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

So true.

When they are freezing their butts off during winter because they went green,
let them freeze.
They were warned.

the days of the US funding NATO and these EU continent wars and conflicts are coming to an end.
Unless we are directly threatened, like Iran and NOT like Ukraine/Russia, we should stay out of it.

Well, it's never THAT easy ... the world, even the
shitty parts, ARE 'connected' to the interests of
ourselves and (useful) allies.

That's true. But we need to start with the basics and move on from there. Feeding money in endless amounts to other nations is a bad idea.

Meanwhile, Trump's reverse on the blockade situation
was brilliant. No money = no Iranian regime.

And we can still blast all their infrastructure if needed.

Indeed.
Personally, since China has apparently promised not to send weapons to Iran, Trump
should offer an olive branch to China and allow oil tankers to pass through.
I believe China has finally realized that US is not a force to be reckoned with.
Mission accomplished.

Europe alas, lost cause I'm afraid. They did it
to themselves.

Sadly, they are.
Islam is taking them over.

I do wish that trump would work something out with Meloni because she is the only leader with balls.
--
pothead

"Nothing rankles a Democrat elitist like seeing a former
blue collar worker rise to someone who has built their own
successful business and enjoying the fruits of their labor.
They deeply resent and disdain people like that because liberals
feel they are socially and academically superior to them
and therefore undeserving of such success."

-- Author Unknown


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On 4/15/26 19:41, pothead wrote:

On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

On 4/15/26 17:58, pothead wrote:

On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-new-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

So true.

When they are freezing their butts off during winter because they went green,
let them freeze.
They were warned.

the days of the US funding NATO and these EU continent wars and conflicts are coming to an end.
Unless we are directly threatened, like Iran and NOT like Ukraine/Russia, we should stay out of it.

Well, it's never THAT easy ... the world, even the
shitty parts, ARE 'connected' to the interests of
ourselves and (useful) allies.

That's true. But we need to start with the basics and move on from there. Feeding money in endless amounts to other nations is a bad idea.

Meanwhile, Trump's reverse on the blockade situation
was brilliant. No money = no Iranian regime.

And we can still blast all their infrastructure if needed.

Indeed.
Personally, since China has apparently promised not to send weapons to Iran, Trump
should offer an olive branch to China and allow oil tankers to pass through. I believe China has finally realized that US is not a force to be reckoned with.
Mission accomplished.

If Iran continues as it was the USA/Israel will never
leave it alone. It is in the Chinese interest to kind
of calm down the jihadists.

Europe alas, lost cause I'm afraid. They did it
to themselves.

Sadly, they are.
Islam is taking them over.

I do wish that trump would work something out with Meloni because she is the only leader with balls.

Yea, this rift kind of upsets me ...

Trump DOES tend to run his mouth, but it this case
there were some bad consequences. He may be able
to backtrack a bit if he wants. Meloni was our
best asset in Europe.

On the flip, Italy also forbade the use of its
airstrips for the Iran campaign. They're all in
terror of Iran and its agents.

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:10rp1ms$18ufd$2@pothead.dont-email.me:

On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans-n
ew-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Ummm ... The Plan is really "Face west, Drop Pants, Bend Over".

Hey, Trump TOLD you a dozen years ago to bulk up - but
NO ... you had to pay for windmills and luxury apartments
for illegal Islamists.

So true.

When they are freezing their butts off during winter because they went
green, let them freeze.
They were warned.

the days of the US funding NATO and these EU continent wars and
conflicts are coming to an end. Unless we are directly threatened,
like Iran and NOT like Ukraine/Russia, we should stay out of it.

How was the US "directly threatened" by Iran?

And what has the Trump war done to change that?


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On 4/15/26 12:23, c186282 wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15734705/Europe-draws-plans- new-NATO-without-US.html

. . .

Eh, not new news: I can recall 15+ years ago some EU defense stuff
going on, with EU NATO members having meetings without the USA.


-hh
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