• Re: Trump Scourges smart Euro/NATO "Allies" for not joining war HEstarted all by himself

    From Borg@info@nowhere.com to talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Apr 14 17:19:12 2026
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    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent
    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it really is.
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  • From chine.bleu@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Apr 14 18:10:01 2026
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    Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent
    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it really is.

    Like they ever fought a war for America.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Tue Apr 14 21:21:19 2026
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    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it really is.

    Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
    totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
    militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
    of their in-country activists.

    Europe will be the property of Russia and China
    real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
    will be their Gestapo.

    They ain't gonna like it.

    But as ye sow .....

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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 01:47:23 2026
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    c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:boycnaEmSKaKdUP0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

    Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
    totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
    militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
    of their in-country activists.


    At least Bush consulted with NATO
    before starting his wars, and thus got
    some cooperation from some of them.

    Trump, on the other, started a war
    all by himself, and when he got bogged
    down in it suddenly demands help?

    The EU can rightfully tell Trump
    to suck it up, he started this fight,
    he can finish it.



    Europe will be the property of Russia and China
    real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
    will be their Gestapo.


    Republicans were ready to sell out
    Europe to Hitler in 1940, Republicans
    are ready to sell out Europe to Putin
    in 2026.


    https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/23/us/how-nazis-tried-to-steer-us- politics.html

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/29/1846170/-GOP-Collusion-with- the-Nazis-in-the-1940-Election

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250307-what-parallels-do- historians-see-between-the-trump-administration-and-the-nazi-regime




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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Apr 15 07:03:42 2026
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    chine.bleu wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent
    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it really is.

    Like they ever fought a war for America.

    Every damn year I had to take training on classification
    processes, including NATO classification. Trump, in his
    silly-assed hissy-fit, wants to tear it down.

    Putin happy.

    Under Trump, is Five Eyes still a thing?

    What a *DUMB* mstherfscker!
    --
    Government [is] an illusion the governed should not encourage.
    -- John Updike, "Couples"
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 07:08:09 2026
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    Mitchell Holman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:boycnaEmSKaKdUP0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com:

    <shitsnip>

    At least Bush consulted with NATO before starting his wars,
    and thus got some cooperation from some of them.

    Trump, on the other, started a war all by himself, and when
    he got bogged down in it suddenly demands help?

    The EU can rightfully tell Trump to suck it up, he started
    this fight, he can finish it.

    Did Trump "finish" when he dry-humped the American Flag?

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH5Yth1hTd4>

    Wotta creep.

    <snip>
    --
    I'd horsewhip you if I had a horse.
    -- Groucho Marx
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 10:34:04 2026
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    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

      Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
      totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
      militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
      of their in-country activists.

      Europe will be the property of Russia and China
      real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
      will be their Gestapo.

      They ain't gonna like it.

      But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 18:50:58 2026
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    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

    Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
    their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
    pay if they won't ?

    Europe sowed the seeds of its destruction when
    it switched from Cold War focus to 'social
    services/free money/greenie' bullshit. The
    money and attention that SHOULD have gone into
    keeping it a tough nut to invade GONE.

    But the USSR wasn't really gone, was it ? Just
    changed its name - and now China is into
    EVERYTHING, dragging down domestic biz.

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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 23:01:35 2026
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    On 2026-04-15, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

    Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
    their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
    pay if they won't ?

    Europe sowed the seeds of its destruction when
    it switched from Cold War focus to 'social
    services/free money/greenie' bullshit. The
    money and attention that SHOULD have gone into
    keeping it a tough nut to invade GONE.

    But the USSR wasn't really gone, was it ? Just
    changed its name - and now China is into
    EVERYTHING, dragging down domestic biz.

    Yep.
    Here is one example:
    https://archive.ph/0hB6S#selection-977.0-1257.323
    '
    How Britain became a paradise for freeloaders: Cut-price treats for benefits claimants.
    Big discounts at gyms and swimming pools. And even holidays and travel are covered.
    MICHAEL SIMMONS’ rage-inducing investigation
    --
    pothead

    "Nothing rankles a Democrat elitist like seeing a former
    blue collar worker rise to someone who has built their own
    successful business and enjoying the fruits of their labor.
    They deeply resent and disdain people like that because liberals
    feel they are socially and academically superior to them
    and therefore undeserving of such success."

    -- Author Unknown


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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 17:00:34 2026
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    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.


      Europe sowed the seeds of its destruction when
      it switched from Cold War focus to 'social
      services/free money/greenie' bullshit. The
      money and attention that SHOULD have gone into
      keeping it a tough nut to invade GONE.

      But the USSR wasn't really gone, was it ? Just
      changed its name - and now China is into
      EVERYTHING, dragging down domestic biz.
    Dragging the goalposts, are you?
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  • From Lissajous@megahurts9911@kilos.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Thu Apr 16 00:37:50 2026
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    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data- visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Wed Apr 15 22:24:08 2026
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    On 4/15/26 20:00, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:

       ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
       their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
       pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    No, but I know where you're coming from, because a lot of people falsely believe that its the old "2% of GDP" bit ...

    ...but that's wrong because the "2%" isn't money being paid to NATO:
    the 2% was a 2014 agreement successfully negotiated by Obama, which was
    for members to increase their domestic defense budgets, and it had a ten
    (10) year implementation timeline: 2014+10 years = 2025 fiscal budgets.
    This means that Trump's claims back in 2017/18 that they were failing
    to meet their obligations was false, because the ten year goal timeline
    had not yet transpired.

    But 2% aside, there's still the NATO HQ organization to run, which takes
    money and yes, members do pay for this: the USA's 2025 share was ~$800 million. Yes, I said million with an "M", and yes that means that it is
    less than 0.1% of the DoD's $980B budget.

    And FYI, the 2% was replaced in May 2025 with a 3.5% (& 5%) goal, whose genesis stemmed from the July 2024 summit in Washington DC.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Thu Apr 16 17:12:42 2026
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    On 2026-04-15 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data- visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    Either.

    With the tiny caveat that they pay a tiny fraction of the US defense
    budget for NATO HQ, not US money is paid TO NATO or INTO NATO.
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  • From Lissajous@megahurts9911@kilos.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Fri Apr 17 00:37:31 2026
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    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rrttq$22cm3$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it >>>>>>> really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data-
    visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    Either.

    With the tiny caveat that they pay a tiny fraction of the US defense
    budget for NATO HQ, not US money is paid TO NATO or INTO NATO.

    Goal post move.
    Bye.

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  • From Hail Trump!@hailtrump@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Fri Apr 17 02:02:05 2026
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    Lissajous wrote:

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rrttq$22cm3$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it >>>>>>>> really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data-
    visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    Either.

    With the tiny caveat that they pay a tiny fraction of the US defense
    budget for NATO HQ, not US money is paid TO NATO or INTO NATO.

    Goal post move.
    Bye.



    Only cowards are unwilling to die for Trump.
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Fri Apr 17 10:04:00 2026
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    On 4/15/26 20:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data- visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    FYI, that chart doesn't show what you think it does.

    Because the numbers shown are **not** each country's share of NATO
    facilities overhead.

    Instead, it is each nation's **total** Defense budget spending, which encompasses all of their national interests.

    For example, the $980B shown for the USA pays for operating every base
    in Europe (EUCOM), but also every base & program in the USA/Canada
    (NORTHCOM), every base & program in South America (SOUTHCOM), every one
    in Africa (AFRICOM), every one in the Indo-Pacific (INDOPACOM), etc.

    TL;DR: had you had done your research & math correctly, you'd learned
    that 99.9% of the US budget you cited isn't what you thought it was.

    -hh
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Fri Apr 17 09:49:13 2026
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    On 2026-04-16 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rrttq$22cm3$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it >>>>>>>> really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data-
    visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    Either.

    With the tiny caveat that they pay a tiny fraction of the US defense
    budget for NATO HQ, not US money is paid TO NATO or INTO NATO.

    Goal post move.

    Nope. Minor correction.

    The total budget for defense spending of all the NATO countries is
    something like $1.5 TRILLION.

    The total cost to run NATO is just $6.3 billion.

    That's less than one third of one percent of the overall military
    spending of all the NATO nations.

    Of that $6.3 billion, the US contributes about 15% of that number, so
    that's $945 million out of total defense spending by the US of $980
    billion, or less than one TENTH of one percent of US defense spending.

    Bye.
    Run away little man!
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  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Fri Apr 17 14:45:04 2026
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    In article <XnsB430D1D09A61twwwe555@62.164.182.21>,
    megahurts9911@kilos.net says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rrttq$22cm3$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it >>>>>>> really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data-
    visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    Either.

    With the tiny caveat that they pay a tiny fraction of the US defense budget for NATO HQ, not US money is paid TO NATO or INTO NATO.

    Goal post move.
    Bye.

    Alan is good at that. Or he raises his white flag and
    disappears from the thread.
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  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Fri Apr 17 14:47:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    In article <10rtoa9$2i2c1$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-
    uh@nope.com says...

    On 2026-04-16 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rrttq$22cm3$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 17:37, Lissajous wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10rp8r3$1b59b$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15 15:50, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/26 13:34, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-04-14 18:21, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it >>>>>>>> really is.

       Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
       totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
       militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
       of their in-country activists.

       Europe will be the property of Russia and China
       real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
       will be their Gestapo.

       They ain't gonna like it.

       But as ye sow .....


    What did any other nation "sow" in this?

    Trump sowed it.

      Not at all ... Trump logically RESPONDED to
      their now-useless 'alliance'. Why should we
      pay if they won't ?

    The US DOESN'T pay ANYTHING to NATO.

    TO or INTO?

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/trackers-and-data-
    visualizations/nato-defense-spending-tracker/

    Either.

    With the tiny caveat that they pay a tiny fraction of the US defense
    budget for NATO HQ, not US money is paid TO NATO or INTO NATO.

    Goal post move.

    Nope. Minor correction.

    The total budget for defense spending of all the NATO countries is
    something like $1.5 TRILLION.

    The total cost to run NATO is just $6.3 billion.

    That's less than one third of one percent of the overall military
    spending of all the NATO nations.

    Of that $6.3 billion, the US contributes about 15% of that number, so
    that's $945 million out of total defense spending by the US of $980
    billion, or less than one TENTH of one percent of US defense spending.

    Bye.
    Run away little man!

    Says the kook that is always running away.

    I know why Canada is so fucked up. All the people there
    are so worried about what's happening here that they
    ignore their own country.
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  • From Gronk@invalide@invalid.invalid to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Mon Apr 20 00:14:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    Mitchell Holman wrote:

    Republicans were ready to sell out
    Europe to Hitler in 1940, Republicans
    are ready to sell out Europe to Putin
    in 2026.

    And don't forget the only one to vote against the
    declaration of war against Japan came was by a
    republican.


    https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/23/us/how-nazis-tried-to-steer-us- politics.html

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/29/1846170/-GOP-Collusion-with- the-Nazis-in-the-1940-Election

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250307-what-parallels-do- historians-see-between-the-trump-administration-and-the-nazi-regime





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  • From Gronk@invalide@invalid.invalid to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Mon Apr 20 00:29:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
    On 4/14/26 20:19, Borg wrote:
    On 4/13/2026 9:34 PM, Gronk wrote:

    Because the FELONdent

    exposed NATO for the leftist agenda promoting outhouse chorus it
    really is.

    Yep, sort of. Alas the EU/NATO has just turned
    totally chickenshit ... afraid to 'offend' any
    militarist/terrorist power in the world, afraid
    of their in-country activists.

    At least Bush consulted with NATO
    before starting his wars, and thus got
    some cooperation from some of them.

    Trump, on the other, started a war
    all by himself, and when he got bogged
    down in it suddenly demands help?

    The EU can rightfully tell Trump
    to suck it up, he started this fight,
    he can finish it.

    Well said.

    Europe will be the property of Russia and China
    real soon now - and all the imported Islamists
    will be their Gestapo.

    Republicans were ready to sell out
    Europe to Hitler in 1940, Republicans
    are ready to sell out Europe to Putin
    in 2026.


    https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/23/us/how-nazis-tried-to-steer-us- politics.html

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/29/1846170/-GOP-Collusion-with- the-Nazis-in-the-1940-Election

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250307-what-parallels-do- historians-see-between-the-trump-administration-and-the-nazi-regime
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump on Mon Apr 20 07:31:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 00:14:17 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:

    Republicans were ready to sell out
    Europe to Hitler in 1940, Republicans
    are ready to sell out Europe to Putin
    in 2026.

    And don't forget the only one to vote against the
    declaration of war against Japan came was by a
    republican.

    Irrelevant but nice try. ;)
    --
    "One half dick and one half tater, Donald is a Vlad fellator." <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhlwPOrccww>

    8647 - 01.20.2029
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