• Re: Trump's Epstein War Hugely Unpopular

    From bks@bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Tue Apr 14 22:01:09 2026
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    | The biggest Iran polling takeaway: Americans don't see the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | point of this war

    | Most Americans believe recent U.S. military action against >>>>>>>>> | Iran has gone too far, and many are worried about affording >>>>>>>>> | gasoline, according to a new AP-NORC poll.

    | There's growing disquiet in the military. The Iran war made
    | it worse

    |
    | As the war in Iran stretches into its seventh week, a
    | survey from Ipsos and Reuters, released on Tuesday, has
    | found that few Americans -- 24 percent -- think the war has
    | been worth the costs and benefits.
    |
    | Even among the president's core supporters, there is a
    | divide: 55 percent of Republicans said they thought the war
    | was worth the costs and benefits, a far cry from the vast
    | majority of his base who support Mr. Trump on most other
    | issues. Instead, 20 percent of Republicans said they
    | thought the war had not been worth the cost, and another 24
    | percent were not sure.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/us/politics/iran-military-action-americans-poll.html>

    --bks
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Tue Apr 14 19:10:14 2026
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    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    | The biggest Iran polling takeaway: Americans don't see the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | point of this war

    | Most Americans believe recent U.S. military action against >>>>>>>>>> | Iran has gone too far, and many are worried about affording >>>>>>>>>> | gasoline, according to a new AP-NORC poll.

    | There's growing disquiet in the military. The Iran war made
    | it worse

    | As the war in Iran stretches into its seventh week, a
    | survey from Ipsos and Reuters, released on Tuesday, has
    | found that few Americans -- 24 percent -- think the war has
    | been worth the costs and benefits.
    |
    | Even among the president's core supporters, there is a
    | divide: 55 percent of Republicans said they thought the war
    | was worth the costs and benefits, a far cry from the vast
    | majority of his base who support Mr. Trump on most other
    | issues. Instead, 20 percent of Republicans said they
    | thought the war had not been worth the cost, and another 24
    | percent were not sure.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/us/politics/iran-military-action-americans-poll.html>

    A certain number of Americans are just as stupid as President
    Shit-4-Brains.
    --
    gossip, n.:
    Hearing something you like about someone you don't.
    -- Earl Wilson
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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Wed Apr 15 01:57:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:10rmdf5$2ul$2@reader1.panix.com:

    | The biggest Iran polling takeaway: Americans don't see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the point of this war

    | Most Americans believe recent U.S. military action against >>>>>>>>>> | Iran has gone too far, and many are worried about affording >>>>>>>>>> | gasoline, according to a new AP-NORC poll.

    | There's growing disquiet in the military. The Iran war made
    | it worse

    |
    | As the war in Iran stretches into its seventh week, a
    | survey from Ipsos and Reuters, released on Tuesday, has
    | found that few Americans -- 24 percent -- think the war has
    | been worth the costs and benefits.
    |
    | Even among the president's core supporters, there is a
    | divide: 55 percent of Republicans said they thought the war
    | was worth the costs and benefits, a far cry from the vast
    | majority of his base who support Mr. Trump on most other
    | issues. Instead, 20 percent of Republicans said they
    | thought the war had not been worth the cost, and another 24
    | percent were not sure.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/us/politics/iran-military-action-am ericans-poll.html>

    --bks


    Even support for the Vietnam war never
    sank that low, IIRC.



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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Wed Apr 15 07:32:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 22:01:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | The biggest Iran polling takeaway: Americans don't see the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | point of this war

    | Most Americans believe recent U.S. military action against >>>>>>>>>> | Iran has gone too far, and many are worried about affording >>>>>>>>>> | gasoline, according to a new AP-NORC poll.

    | There's growing disquiet in the military. The Iran war made
    | it worse

    |
    | As the war in Iran stretches into its seventh week, a
    | survey from Ipsos and Reuters, released on Tuesday, has
    | found that few Americans -- 24 percent -- think the war has
    | been worth the costs and benefits.
    |
    | Even among the president's core supporters, there is a
    | divide: 55 percent of Republicans said they thought the war
    | was worth the costs and benefits, a far cry from the vast
    | majority of his base who support Mr. Trump on most other
    | issues. Instead, 20 percent of Republicans said they
    | thought the war had not been worth the cost, and another 24
    | percent were not sure.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/us/politics/iran-military-action-americans-poll.html>

    --bks

    "We're Iran and we paid for Bradley's subscription to the pay walled
    garbage publication he's citing".
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  • From bks@bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Wed Apr 15 20:06:25 2026
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    |
    | In group chats and meetings, Republicans are privately
    | petrified the Iran war could cost them the midterms
    |
    | Many Republican lawmakers and strategists told NBC News
    | they worry the party has little to run on. "Right now, the
    | voters don't see a message or a strategy," a Trump pollster
    | said.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/group-chats-meetings-republicans-are-privately-petrified-iran-war-cost-rcna273642>

    --bks
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Wed Apr 15 22:12:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    On 2026-04-15, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
    |
    | In group chats and meetings, Republicans are privately
    | petrified the Iran war could cost them the midterms
    |
    | Many Republican lawmakers and strategists told NBC News
    | they worry the party has little to run on. "Right now, the
    | voters don't see a message or a strategy," a Trump pollster
    | said.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/group-chats-meetings-republicans-are-privately-petrified-iran-war-cost-rcna273642>

    --bks

    Wars are universally unpopular with voters.
    FDR campaigned on not involving the US in any foreign wars.
    How well did that work out?

    The problem is the low information voters who has no idea that Iran has been threatening death to America for decades and that they mean it.

    Somebody had to do something.

    Trump had the testicular fortitude to step up and do something.
    Whether it's a success or a failure remains to be seen.

    Iran aside, I do not feel we should be involved in Ukraine.
    Let Europe handle it.
    They aren't a threat to America, at least not directly.
    --
    pothead

    "Nothing rankles a Democrat elitist like seeing a former
    blue collar worker rise to someone who has built their own
    successful business and enjoying the fruits of their labor.
    They deeply resent and disdain people like that because liberals
    feel they are socially and academically superior to them
    and therefore undeserving of such success."

    -- Author Unknown


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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Thu Apr 16 02:21:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:10rp2g1$18ufd$4@pothead.dont-email.me:

    On 2026-04-15, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
    |
    | In group chats and meetings, Republicans are privately
    | petrified the Iran war could cost them the midterms
    |
    | Many Republican lawmakers and strategists told NBC News
    | they worry the party has little to run on. "Right now, the
    | voters don't see a message or a strategy," a Trump pollster
    | said.
    | ... >><https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/group-chats-meetings-republ >>icans-are-privately-petrified-iran-war-cost-rcna273642>

    --bks

    Wars are universally unpopular with voters.
    FDR campaigned on not involving the US in any foreign wars.
    How well did that work out?

    The problem is the low information voters who has no idea that Iran
    has been threatening death to America for decades and that they mean
    it.


    From the "Iraq is a threat to
    America" comes "Iran is a threat to
    America".

    Both built on lies.




    Somebody had to do something.

    Trump had the testicular fortitude to step up and do something.


    What has President Bone Spurs actually done?



    Whether it's a success or a failure remains to be seen.

    Iran aside, I do not feel we should be involved in Ukraine.
    Let Europe handle it.
    They aren't a threat to America, at least not directly.


    What makes Iran a threat to America?

    The nukes they don't have?

    LOL!





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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Thu Apr 16 07:37:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:06:25 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | In group chats and meetings, Republicans are privately
    | petrified the Iran war could cost them the midterms
    |
    | Many Republican lawmakers and strategists told NBC News
    | they worry the party has little to run on. "Right now, the
    | voters don't see a message or a strategy," a Trump pollster
    | said.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/group-chats-meetings-republicans-are-privately-petrified-iran-war-cost-rcna273642>

    --bks

    ":Sources say"

    LAUGHTER!
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Thu Apr 16 08:09:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    Mitchell Holman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:10rp2g1$18ufd$4@pothead.dont-email.me:

    <snip>

    The problem is the low information voters who has no idea that Iran
    has been threatening death to America for decades and that they mean
    it.

    From the "Iraq is a threat to
    America" comes "Iran is a threat to
    America".

    Both built on lies.

    Somebody had to do something.

    Trump had the testicular fortitude to step up and do something.

    What has President Bone Spurs actually done?

    Whether it's a success or a failure remains to be seen.

    Iran aside, I do not feel we should be involved in Ukraine.
    Let Europe handle it.
    They aren't a threat to America, at least not directly.

    What makes Iran a threat to America?
    The nukes they don't have?
    LOL!

    Meanwhile, in North Korea ...

    <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/15/north-korea-nuclear-weapons-capability-un-watchdog-rafael-grossi>

    North Korea rapidly expanding nuclear weapons capability, UN
    watchdog warns

    Pyongyang making ‘very serious’ progress on producing weapons,
    with rapid rise in activity at main nuclear complex

    North Korea is thought to have assembled about 50 nuclear
    warheads, although some experts are sceptical of its claims
    that it is able to miniaturise them so they can be attached to
    long-range ballistic missiles.

    Speaking during a visit to the South Korean capital, Seoul, on
    Wednesday, Rafael Grossi, the head of the International Atomic
    Energy Agency (IAEA), confirmed reports of a rapid rise in
    activity at North Korea’s main nuclear complex, Yongbyon.

    Grossi said work had intensified at Yongbyon’s 5MW reactor,
    reprocessing unit, light water reactor and other facilities,
    and the country was believed to possess several dozen nuclear
    warheads.
    --
    `Lasu' Releases SAG 0.3 -- Freeware Book Takes Paves For New World Order
    by staff writers
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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Thu Apr 16 13:19:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in news:10rqjib$1ll52$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:10rp2g1$18ufd$4@pothead.dont-email.me:

    <snip>

    The problem is the low information voters who has no idea that Iran
    has been threatening death to America for decades and that they mean
    it.

    From the "Iraq is a threat to
    America" comes "Iran is a threat to
    America".

    Both built on lies.

    Somebody had to do something.

    Trump had the testicular fortitude to step up and do something.

    What has President Bone Spurs actually done?

    Whether it's a success or a failure remains to be seen.

    Iran aside, I do not feel we should be involved in Ukraine.
    Let Europe handle it.
    They aren't a threat to America, at least not directly.

    What makes Iran a threat to America?
    The nukes they don't have?
    LOL!

    Meanwhile, in North Korea ...

    <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/15/north-korea-nuclear-
    weapons-capability-un-watchdog-rafael-grossi>

    North Korea rapidly expanding nuclear weapons capability, UN
    watchdog warns

    Pyongyang making ‘very serious’ progress on producing weapons,
    with rapid rise in activity at main nuclear complex

    North Korea is thought to have assembled about 50 nuclear
    warheads, although some experts are sceptical of its claims
    that it is able to miniaturise them so they can be attached to
    long-range ballistic missiles.

    Speaking during a visit to the South Korean capital, Seoul, on
    Wednesday, Rafael Grossi, the head of the International Atomic
    Energy Agency (IAEA), confirmed reports of a rapid rise in
    activity at North Korea’s main nuclear complex, Yongbyon.

    Grossi said work had intensified at Yongbyon’s 5MW reactor,
    reprocessing unit, light water reactor and other facilities,
    and the country was believed to possess several dozen nuclear
    warheads.



    "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."
    Donald Trump, June 12 2018
    http://tinyurl.com/yafnpjmy



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  • From chine.bleu@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Thu Apr 16 06:53:17 2026
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    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Meanwhile, in North Korea ...

    And Pakistan, India, Israel.
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Thu Apr 16 08:23:29 2026
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    chine.bleu wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Meanwhile, in North Korea ...

    And Pakistan, India, Israel.

    In 100 years, who's going to care?
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    sister of his own wife, Queen Tahpenes, in marriage.
    The sister of Tahpenes bore him a son named Genubath,
    whom Tahpenes brought up in the royal palace. There
    Genubath lived with Pharaoh’s own children.
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