• Google 2025 strategy leaks ¨, OpenAI's for-profit plan ¨, becoming a staff engineer ¨¨

    From TLDR@VERT to tldr@synchro.net on Mon Dec 30 11:34:33 2024
    Google plans to introduce a number of AI features in the first half of
    next year. The company recently held a strategy meeting for next
    year


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    BIG TECH & STARTUPS

    GOOGLE CEO PICHAI TELLS EMPLOYEES TO GEAR UP FOR BIG 2025: `THE
    STAKES ARE HIGH' (7 MINUTE READ) [4]

    Google plans to introduce a number of AI features in the first half
    of next year. The company recently held a strategy meeting for next
    year where executives set the stage for a year of increased
    competition, regulatory hurdles, and advancements in AI. CEO Sundar
    Pichai has warned employees that 2025 will be a challenging year as
    the company is facing scrutiny across the world. While Google's search
    business still has dominant market share, generative AI has brought
    with it a host of new competitors.

    OPENAI SAYS IT NEEDS `MORE CAPITAL THAN WE'D IMAGINED' AS IT LAYS
    OUT FOR-PROFIT PLAN (5 MINUTE READ) [5]

    OpenAI will create a public benefit corporation to oversee commercial operations when it moves towards a for-profit structure in 2025. The
    public benefit corporation will remove some of OpenAI's nonprofit
    restrictions and allow it to function more like a high-growth startup.
    The scale of capital that the company needs requires conventional
    equity and a less complicated structure. OpenAI's effort to
    restructure faces major hurdles, including a lawsuit from Elon Musk
    and an outflow of high-level talent.

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    SCIENCE & FUTURISTIC TECHNOLOGY

    THINKING SLOWLY: THE PARADOXICAL SLOWNESS OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR (3 MINUTE
    READ) [6]

    Humans think at a rate of 10 bits per second. Our bodies' sensory
    systems gather environmental data at a rate of a billion bits per
    second, 100 million times faster than our thought processes. It is
    unknown why humans are only able to think a single thought at a time
    rather than many at a time in parallel the way our sensory systems
    work. One theory is that the brain was first evolved for navigation -
    it would make sense that we can only follow one 'path' of thought at a
    time if our brain evolved from a simple system to follow paths.

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    Space exploration dazzled the world in 2024 - NASA's Europa Clipper
    began its journey to study Jupiter's moon Europa, SpaceX's Starship
    achieved its first successful landing, China's Chang'e 6 mission
    successfully returned samples from the far side of the Moon, and the International Space Station continued to host international crews and
    private missions. Space agencies are gearing up for even more
    ambitious goals in 2025. This article looks at the most exciting
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    sky in near-infrared light to create a comprehensive map of the
    universe; Space Rider, and uncrewed spaceplane from the European Space
    Agency; and Japan's M2/Resilience mission, which will launch a lander
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    PROGRAMMING, DESIGN & DATA SCIENCE

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    Software designers usually have a simple concept in mind when writing
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    programs that must be altered when an update or correction is needed.
    Changes made by people who don't understand the original design
    concept almost always cause the structure of the program to degrade.
    The changes will be inconsistent or invalidate the original concept.
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    Software that has been repeatedly modified in this way becomes very
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    It's probably easier to get to staff engineer by getting hired as
    doing so via promotions requires you to be known and valued by your organization. Companies value engineers who ship, so ship projects
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    Don't worry too much about mentoring and leading, as long as you're
    leading projects successfully, or if doing so delivers value for the
    company. Getting to staff manager requires a lot of work from your
    manager - don't invest time in the promo packet until they're fully on
    board.

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    MISCELLANEOUS

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    READ) [10]

    All small and medium-sized portable electronic devices (under 100
    watts) sold in the EU must now be compatible with USB-C ports. The
    rule will also apply to laptops starting April 28, 2026. Apple removed
    the iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Pro, and third-generation iPhone SE from its
    EU online stores to comply with the regulation earlier this month.
    Other major markets, such as California and India, are following the
    EU's lead and will implement similar rules in the coming years.

    BY DEFAULT, CAPITAL WILL MATTER MORE THAN EVER AFTER AGI (27 MINUTE
    READ) [11]

    This article talks about the implications of labor-replacing AI and
    the possible future that we might be facing. Labor is the human mental
    and physical effort that produces something of value. Capital goods
    are things that are used in the production of goods and services.
    Capital can refer to both the stock of capital goods and the money
    that can pay for them. AI will make capital a more general substitute
    for labor. There will be less need to pay humans for work as you can
    replace that with capital - data centers running software.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to TLDR on Mon Dec 30 13:46:19 2024
    Re: Google 2025 strategy leaks ¨, OpenAI's for-profit plan ¨, becoming a staff engineer ¨¨
    By: TLDR to tldr@synchro.net on Mon Dec 30 2024 11:34 am

    Humans think at a rate of 10 bits per second.

    That sounds like BS to me (and the article is behind a paywall):

    A single letter is at least 5 bits of information. How can a human type 100 *words* a minute if they can only "think" (of each letter/character) at the rate of 2 characters/second? That would mean a human could only type 120 characters per minute.

    Certainly humans *read* much faster than they type, and they have to think about the words and phrases they're reading as they're converting print to thoughts.

    I'm not sure how they're measuring this data rate, but it seems sus to me.
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Digital Man on Mon Dec 30 17:54:06 2024
    Hey Digital!

    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:46:19 -0600, you wrote ..

    Humans think at a rate of 10 bits per second.

    That sounds like BS to me (and the article is behind a paywall):

    A single letter is at least 5 bits of information. How can a human
    type 100 *words* a minute if they can only "think" (of each letter/character) at the rate of 2 characters/second? That would mean
    a human could only type 120 characters per minute.

    Certainly humans *read* much faster than they type, and they have to
    think about the words and phrases they're reading as they're
    converting print to thoughts.

    I'm not sure how they're measuring this data rate, but it seems sus
    to me.

    Do you really think Google would ever lie to you? ;)

    Seems everyone is in a huge rush to best each other in the AI realm these days. I still have an uneasy feeling that some day it will backfire.

    *shakes fist at the Terminator movies for 'warning us'* :D

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Accession on Tue Dec 31 00:31:04 2024
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy leaks =?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=92=A1=2C?= OpenAI'sfor
    By: Accession to Digital Man on Mon Dec 30 2024 05:54 pm

    Seems everyone is in a huge rush to best each other in the AI realm these da I still have an uneasy feeling that some day it will backfire.

    *shakes fist at the Terminator movies for 'warning us'* :D

    So far, AI produces a bunch of lies. Terminator never told us AI would give us a bunch of wrong info and then go "Oh jee, I'm sorry. Let me try that again." and just lie some more.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Tue Dec 31 10:27:00 2024
    Seems everyone is in a huge rush to best each other in the AI realm these
    ays.
    I still have an uneasy feeling that some day it will backfire.

    As do I, similar to the "dot.com" craze/crash except this one could have a
    lot more consequences.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to phigan on Tue Dec 31 07:37:46 2024
    phigan wrote to Accession <=-

    *shakes fist at the Terminator movies for 'warning us'* :D

    So far, AI produces a bunch of lies. Terminator never told us AI would give us a bunch of wrong info and then go "Oh jee, I'm sorry. Let me
    try that again." and just lie some more.


    Why won't we listen to science fiction authors when they tell a
    cautionary tale?


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to phigan on Tue Dec 31 15:22:21 2024
    Hello phigan,

    On Tue, Dec 31 2024 01:31:04 -0600, you wrote ..

    So far, AI produces a bunch of lies. Terminator never told us AI would
    give us a bunch of wrong info and then go "Oh jee, I'm sorry. Let me
    try that again." and just lie some more.

    Probably just cut that part out of the movies. First, they lie to you. Then, they turn on you, hunt you down, and try to kill you. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 31 15:30:37 2024
    Hello Dumas,

    On Tue, Dec 31 2024 09:27:00 -0600, you wrote ..

    As do I, similar to the "dot.com" craze/crash except this one could
    have a lot more consequences.

    AI, even when compared to something like a total station (which is now used in construction most of the time before any decent project starts), used to give gridlines, elevations, other very accurate point data, and many other things ..

    Still only works as good as the person controlling it. I've started jobs where entire column lines are off by a foot.

    If the person/people controlling this stuff is an idiot, there's no limit to what these things can and can't do aside from what they're _supposed_ to do. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Accession on Wed Jan 1 00:57:26 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy leaks =?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=92=A1=2C?= OpenAI'sfor
    By: phigan to Accession on Tue Dec 31 2024 00:31:04

    *shakes fist at the Terminator movies for 'warning us'* :D

    I'm thinking more The Matrix.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Wed Jan 1 09:27:00 2025
    As do I, similar to the "dot.com" craze/crash except this one could
    have a lot more consequences.

    AI, even when compared to something like a total station (which is now used in >construction most of the time before any decent project starts), used to give >gridlines, elevations, other very accurate point data, and many other things
    .

    If the person/people controlling this stuff is an idiot, there's no limit to >what these things can and can't do aside from what they're _supposed_ to do.
    )

    I also think they are trying to use it for things it is not meant to do,
    which is why it is good at giving accurate point data but not so great at trying to think like a human.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mortar on Wed Jan 1 09:12:18 2025
    Hello Mortar,

    On Wed, Jan 01 2025 00:57:26 -0600, you wrote ..

    *shakes fist at the Terminator movies for 'warning us'* :D

    I'm thinking more The Matrix.

    And if you combine the two, we're all doomed!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 1 10:59:34 2025
    Hello Dumas,

    On Wed, Jan 01 2025 08:27:00 -0600, you wrote ..

    I also think they are trying to use it for things it is not meant to
    do, which is why it is good at giving accurate point data but not so
    great at trying to think like a human.

    For sure. Which also brings up the point that a good percentage of humans are getting dumber, and lazier (in my experience, I point at architects and engineers making construction drawings with far less detail that now basically needs to be figured out in the field, and when asked about said details, they take a week or more to respond - half the time coming back with an answer that doesn't even pertain to the problem at hand, which can hold up the entire construction process and add to the frustration of trying to get a job done on time, and under budget).

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jan 1 09:53:30 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy leaks =?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=92=A1=2C?= OpenAI'sfor
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Tue Dec 31 2024 07:37 am

    At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel "Don't Create The Torment Nexus".

    Everything went fine when they brought those dinosaurs back to life, innit.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Accession on Wed Jan 1 15:46:28 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy leaks =?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=92=A1=2C?=OpenAI'sfor
    By: Accession to Mortar on Wed Jan 01 2025 09:12:18

    And if you combine the two, we're all doomed!

    We'd be doomed either way, don't ya think?

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Accession on Wed Jan 1 15:52:24 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 01 2025 10:59:34

    Which also brings up the point that a good percentage of humans are getting dumber, and lazier.

    Pffft, I've known that for decades.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Accession on Thu Jan 2 06:57:11 2025
    Accession wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    For sure. Which also brings up the point that a good percentage of
    humans are getting dumber, and lazier (in my experience, I point at architects and engineers making construction drawings with far less
    detail that now basically needs to be figured out in the field, and
    when asked about said details, they take a week or more to respond -
    half the time coming back with an answer that doesn't even pertain to
    the problem at hand, which can hold up the entire construction process
    and add to the frustration of trying to get a job done on time, and
    under budget).

    I find the number of times I write an email and get a response that
    doesn't fully answer the question I asked increasing. I don't know if
    it's a lack of reading comprehension, a desire to do the least amount
    needed to check a box in their brain, or something else - but the lead
    time and the need for multiple emails is frustrating.

    I'm also suffering from short-timer's syndrome, going to be going
    through an organizational change soon and not having to deal with some
    of these people. Makes everything rub that much more.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Thu Jan 2 10:11:00 2025
    I also think they are trying to use it for things it is not meant to
    do, which is why it is good at giving accurate point data but not so
    great at trying to think like a human.

    For sure. Which also brings up the point that a good percentage of humans are >getting dumber, and lazier (in my experience, I point at architects and >engineers making construction drawings with far less detail that now basically >needs to be figured out in the field, and when asked about said details, they >take a week or more to respond - half the time coming back with an answer that >doesn't even pertain to the problem at hand, which can hold up the entire >construction process and add to the frustration of trying to get a job done on >time, and under budget).

    Considering the field we are discussing... building construction... that is actually pretty scary.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mortar on Thu Jan 2 18:01:55 2025
    Hey Mortar!

    On Wed, Jan 01 2025 15:52:24 -0600, you wrote ..

    Which also brings up the point that a good percentage of humans are
    getting dumber, and lazier.

    Pffft, I've known that for decades.

    I watched "Idiocracy" very soon after I posted that (a day or two ago), and all the answers just fell into place. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 2 18:08:11 2025
    Hey poindexter!

    On Thu, Jan 02 2025 08:57:11 -0600, you wrote ..

    I find the number of times I write an email and get a response that
    doesn't fully answer the question I asked increasing. I don't know if
    it's a lack of reading comprehension, a desire to do the least amount
    needed to check a box in their brain, or something else - but the lead
    time and the need for multiple emails is frustrating.

    I'd imagine it's probably all the reasons you listed, and even including the flat out lack of giving a shit. *shrug*

    I'm also suffering from short-timer's syndrome, going to be going
    through an organizational change soon and not having to deal with some
    of these people. Makes everything rub that much more.

    Lucky. While I may only have to deal with an architect and/or engineer for anywhere from a few weeks to a year, the next job there's another that isn't any better than the last one. :(

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 2 18:10:22 2025
    Hey Dumas!

    On Thu, Jan 02 2025 09:11:00 -0600, you wrote ..

    Considering the field we are discussing... building construction...
    that is actually pretty scary.

    Definitely. And it's only going to get worse as long as schools keep telling kids to go to college, where they'll choose some easy degree they'll never use in the real world.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 3 02:39:19 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Accession on Thu Jan 02 2025 06:57 am

    I find the number of times I write an email and get a response that
    doesn't fully answer the question I asked increasing. I don't know if
    it's a lack of reading comprehension, a desire to do the least amount
    needed to check a box in their brain, or something else - but the lead
    time and the need for multiple emails is frustrating.

    So glad that I'm not the only one noticing this. It was so bad at my last place of work that I always had to carefully space out (or group together,as the case may be) sentences or certain words just so that I was sure they would be seen/read. Also with particular people I just came to expect that there would be some kind of "HUH?" type response, so I made sure to get started early on any communication with them.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to phigan on Fri Jan 3 09:59:07 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy
    By: phigan to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 03 2025 02:39 am

    I find the number of times I write an email and get a response that doesn't fully answer the question I asked increasing. I don't know if it's a lack of reading comprehension, a desire to do the least amount needed to check a box in their brain, or something else - but the lead time and the need for multiple emails is frustrating.

    So glad that I'm not the only one noticing this.

    You're definitely not. This happens to me every day on the job... it is a bit disturbing.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Accession on Fri Jan 3 12:39:05 2025
    Accession wrote to Mortar <=-

    I watched "Idiocracy" very soon after I posted that (a day or two ago), and all the answers just fell into place. :)

    We keep seeing commercials for the game show "Wipeout", and my wife
    insists we're one step away from "Ow, my balls!"




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Accession on Fri Jan 3 12:39:05 2025
    Accession wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Definitely. And it's only going to get worse as long as schools keep telling kids to go to college, where they'll choose some easy degree they'll never use in the real world.

    The bubble had burst before covid, I'd thought - that having a degree,
    any degree, meant the real possibility of a job out of college.

    Now, my son is graduating with a marketing/comms degree and I'm trying
    to impress on him that in a couple of years there won't be entry level
    jobs creating copy - there will be jobs for people to run and tune
    output from LLMs.


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  • From Mythicmrmun@VERT/PENNYBBS to Bf2k+ on Fri Jan 3 23:15:18 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy
    By: Bf2k+ to phigan on Fri Jan 03 2025 09:59:07

    You're definitely not. This happens to me every day on the job... it is a bit disturbing.

    The lack of common sense in workplaces is increasing, It should be listed as a requirement on job descriptions nowadays..

    Regards
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 4 17:33:48 2025
    Hey poindexter!

    On Fri, Jan 03 2025 14:39:05 -0600, you wrote ..

    I watched "Idiocracy" very soon after I posted that (a day or two
    ago), and all the answers just fell into place. :)

    We keep seeing commercials for the game show "Wipeout", and my wife
    insists we're one step away from "Ow, my balls!"

    We're definitely heading in that direction, and not the other way.. that's for sure!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 4 17:38:48 2025
    Hey poindexter!

    On Fri, Jan 03 2025 14:39:05 -0600, you wrote ..

    Definitely. And it's only going to get worse as long as schools
    keep telling kids to go to college, where they'll choose some easy
    degree they'll never use in the real world.

    The bubble had burst before covid, I'd thought - that having a degree,
    any degree, meant the real possibility of a job out of college.

    I think the bubble had burst long before that, to be honest. While I didn't join in the conversation in the other sub, I was in high school in the late 90s and got to take all the shop class electives and all that. When those shop classes started disappearing from schools is when they were touting going to college was the only way. Now that they've done that, the trades are in dire need of quality workers, and jobs where you need a college degree are overstuffed and dwindling. It's going to get even worse with AI, I have a feeling.

    That said, luckily the school my kids go to still have vocational classes.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mythicmrmun on Sat Jan 4 17:40:25 2025
    Hey Mythicmrmun!

    On Fri, Jan 03 2025 07:15:18 -0600, you wrote ..

    The lack of common sense in workplaces is increasing, It should be
    listed as a requirement on job descriptions nowadays..

    While I agree with this, unfortunately that would probably hurt people's feelings and cause sue-happy-lack-of-common-sense people to file lawsuits. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 4 17:20:31 2025
    Re: Re: Google 2025 strategy
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Accession on Fri Jan 03 2025 12:39 pm

    We keep seeing commercials for the game show "Wipeout", and my wife
    insists we're one step away from "Ow, my balls!"

    Guessing you already know, there's an Android game named that.

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